Video argues Iliad lot emblems may be proto-writing

this scene in the Iliad helps the case for "European Proto-Writing"
Source: this scene in the Iliad helps the case for "European Proto-Writing" by Timeless with Fred Snyder

The Iliad’s Book 7 describes nine Achaean leaders casting marked lots for a fight with Hector. Each knew his own emblem. The video argues that these personal symbols formed an identity system and possible proto-writing among pre-literate Greeks. That is an interpretation of a literary scene, not proof of a prehistoric writing system. The listed emblems are not circles, crosses and lines. Vinča and Göbekli Tepe symbols remain debated, and a 40,000-year European proto-writing tradition has not been demonstrated.

Key facts

  • Iliad Book 7 describes nine Achaean leaders casting marked lots to choose a fighter for Hector; Homer says each man knew his own mark.
  • The passage does not say the emblems were created without coordination or explain how the tokens were made.
  • The listed emblems are a handled vessel, serpent's head, bull's horn, club, dove, fish, helmet, hilted sword and large stone; the passage does not identify them as circles, crosses and lines.
  • The video interprets the emblems as an identity system and possible proto-writing; this is not demonstrated by the passage or established by the cited sources.
  • The Iliad, traditionally dated to about 750 BCE, is a literary account of the Trojan War, not direct archaeological evidence of prehistoric Greek writing.
  • Vinča symbols, generally dated to about 5300–4500 BCE, and marked Göbekli Tepe pillars, dated to about 9600–8200 BCE, remain debated as possible writing.
  • Chinese characters represent words or morphemes rather than individual sounds, but that general feature of script does not make the Homeric emblems writing.
  • A continuous European proto-writing tradition extending 40,000 years has not been demonstrated.

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Iliaden.wikipedia.org
is one of two major surviving ancient Greek epic poems attributed to Homer. divided into 24 books. It contains 15,693 lines in its standard edition.
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